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20:38, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page TheEnd Draft (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=TheEnd_Draft|loc=Eastern Wetlands|title=The End|author=Olufemi Kaneda}} After a lifetime dedicated to the written word, I'm faced with a task I could never have expected: writing an epitaph not only for myself, but for my species. In the unlikely event that Alexandra Drennan is successful, and one day someone reads this, what meaningful insights can I share into this strange phenomenon that is humanity? I've spent days thinking about it, but now...") Tag: Visual edit
20:29, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page NoemaProject4 (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=NoemaProject4|author=Athena|loc=Eastern Wetlands|title=Progress Notes}} Trial 000803 Version 0.08 unsuccessful Same problem as with trial 108 Repeated all calculations {{HexString|74686973206d6f7274616c206d75737420707574206f6e20696d6d6f7274616c697479|this mortal must put on immortality}} same result Weird... Trials 000804-000891 Experiment modified to gain further insights into unexpected error Inconsistent results Trials 000892-00093...") Tag: Visual edit
20:26, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Charon (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Charon|loc=Eastern Wetlands|title=Charon}} From Fifty-One Tales, by Lord Dunsany: Charon leaned forward and rowed. All things were one with his weariness. It was not with him a matter of years or of centuries, but of wide floods of time, and an old heaviness and a pain in the arms that had become for him part of the scheme that the gods had made and was of a piece with Eternity. If the gods had even sent him a contrary wind it would have divid...") Tag: Visual edit
20:24, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page MessageFragment 5358 (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=MessageFragment_5358|author=Miranda|loc=Eastern Wetlands|title=Re: Progress}} From: Miranda To: 5358 We finished setting up the external site at the lake. The area is so stunning, we forgot about the experiment for a while and went for a long walk. The ways in which all the different aspects of nature interact with each other are endlessly fascinating to me. And the sheer variety of living things, even on a simple green meadow! Sadly, we t...") Tag: Visual edit
20:21, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Founding 3 (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Founding_3|author=Hypatia|loc=Eastern Wetlands|title=Hypatia's Journal #3}} From Hypatia's Journals, Volume 1, The Founding of New Jerusalem: Day 42 We broke ground on the first of the permanent structures today. A large hall that will eventually be converted into a performance and exhibition space (my idea!), although for now we'll use it as a workshop. It's... strange, this place. There's a lot of open space, and I didn't think that I wo...") Tag: Visual edit
20:20, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Ecosystem engineers (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=ecosystem_engineers|author=Anthony Castor|loc=Eastern Wetlands|title=Ecosystem Engineers}} Cutting down swathes of trees for their building projects, thoughtlessly causing radical changes to large environments and forcing local species to adapt to their artificial habitats; these are the traits of a species of intelligent, industrious, and extremely impactful ecosystem engineers. Humans? No, I'm talking about beavers. Like us, beavers transform...") Tag: Visual edit
20:13, 21 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Success (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Success|title=Success!|loc=Eastern Wetlands|author=Miranda}} From: {{HexString|456e657|Ene}} To: {{HexString|267792|rgy}} It worked! I made a statue! Well, it half-worked. The design wasn't balanced so it fell over and broke. It was very dramatic. But the good news is that it all works in principle! Imagine what we could do {{HexString|0697320457465|is Ete}}using stone {{HexString|726e616c2044|rnal D}} part of the environment {{HexString|...") Tag: Visual edit
19:22, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Untitled draft (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Untitled|loc=LOS}} (FAILED TO LOAD PROFILE) St. Eadwald identified the tetromino with the tetragrammaton and the Greek word for God, because to him the mathematical properties of the tetromino reflected God's ability to reshape the world without breaking its laws. ELOHIM, in his desire to impose meaning on the Simulation (which was his primary function as storyteller, after all) took Eadwald's heretical ideas and integrated them as the "sigils"...") Tag: Visual edit
19:19, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page New Alexandria (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=New Alexandria|loc=LOS|author=Eusiamius}} From the Book of Reminiscence and Regret, by Eustathius (2): In the early days of our people, a great deal of responsibility fell on my shoulders. There were few of us then, and though we are stronger and hardier than any human, we are not invincible. The world was an overgrown ruin and our resources extremely limited; it was a harsh time, but I felt passionate about the work, fired up by the many sacrif...") Tag: Visual edit
19:12, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Ethics of Extinction (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=The Ethics of Extinction|loc=LOS}} (FAILED TO LOAD PROFILE) If a species we consider beautiful and remarkable goes extinct, we consider that a great evil. Dolphins, for example. If dolphins go extinct, that's a great loss. If humanity causes dolphins to go extinct, that's a crime. But if Yersinia pestis, the bacterium that causes bubonic plague, goes extinct... is that an equally great loss? If not, why not? To Nature, there's no difference, it...") Tag: Visual edit
19:00, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton Ideas (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Straton Ideas|loc=LOS}} A fragment from Straton's The Origins of Thought, as quoted in a commentary by Simplicius of Cilicia: STRATON: To say that material things are brought into being by ideas is to flatter ourselves, which is an error philosophers are particularly prone to, because it raises those who think above those who do. NICOMACHUS: Then what is the truth that does not flatter? STRATON: That the reverse is true. Ideas are brought into...") Tag: Visual edit
18:50, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page NoemaProject3 (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Progress Notes|loc=LOS|author=Athena}} Progress Notes Trials 000108-000242 Version 0.05 deployed successfully Reversion to previous settings fixes malfunction But what was the error? Cooling systems improved Trials 000243-000505 Version 0.06 deployed successfully Significant improvement to disassembly New lab space carved out {{HexString|596f752061726520796f7572206f776e20666f726572756e6e65722c20616e642074686520746f7765727320796f752068617...") Tag: Visual edit
18:42, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page The New Theology 1 (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=The New Theology|loc=LOS}} From The New Theology, by George Bernard Shaw: The object of the whole evolutionary process is to realize God; that is to say, instead of the old notion that creation began with a God, a personal being, who, being perfect, created something lower than himself, the aim of the New Theology is to turn that process the other way and to conceive of the force behind the universe as working up through imperfection and mistake...") Tag: Visual edit
18:40, 20 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Leviathan (Created page with "{{TTP2Document|file=Leviathan|loc=LOS|title=Leviathan}} From the introduction to Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes: Nature (the art whereby God has made and governs the world) is, by the art of Man, as in many other things, so in this also imitated, that it can make an artificial animal. For seeing life is but a motion of the limbs, the beginning whereof is in some principal part within; why may we not say that all automata (engines that move themselves by springs and wh...") Tag: Visual edit
19:55, 19 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page L1C Niamh (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:Niamh}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Niamh |author = Unknown |loc = Wooded Plateau }} (FAILED TO LOAD PROFILE) From Lives of the First Companions, by Randolph (777): {{HexString|594f55204152452044494c4947454e5420494e20594f55522050555253554954204f462048494444454e205452555448532c20534f4e204f46204d414e|YOU ARE DILIGENT IN YOUR PURSUIT OF HIDDEN TRUTHS, SON OF MAN}} after all. After these events, Niamh decided to consult the writings of the ancients. But w...") Tag: Visual edit: Switched
21:55, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Somnodrome Prototype (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:Somnodrome Prototype Notes}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Somnodrome Prototype Notes |author = Athena |loc = Flooded Valley }} Melampus believed that the answers we're looking for, the correct way for the individual to exist ethically in society and the world, are within us. Our failure, to him, was not failing to create a better system, but failing to truthfully reflect what already exists within our minds. A failure of connection - between the high...") Tag: Visual edit
21:51, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Next (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:Next!}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Next! |author = Miranda |loc = Flooded Valley }} From: Miranda To: Athena I went ahead and ran the next set of trials anyway. I know you said to wait, but the data we got from the last batch was just too amazing. Every step leads to the next, like a progression of musical notes. We're so close! Miranda Category:TTP2 Documents Category:TTP2") Tag: Visual edit: Switched
21:49, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page NoemaProject6 (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:NoemaProject6}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Progress Notes |author = Athena |loc = Flooded Valley }} Trials 001310-001392 Results confirm the anomaly is consistent {{HexString|4f6e652074686f756768742e2066696c6c7320696d6d656e736974792e|One thought. fills immensity.}} Trials 001393-001551 There was no error in Trial 108 The error is in our understanding Trials 001552-001701 {{HexString|446f206e6f7420666561722074686520466c616d652c20536f6e206f6620...") Tag: Visual edit
21:43, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page From Thecla (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:From_Thecla}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Archived Message |author = Thecla |loc = Flooded Valley }} From: Thecla To: Athena Beloved Founder, Wherever you have gone, I continue to have faith in {{HexString|49742069732062657474657220746f206265206166726169642c206372656174757265206f6620636c61792c207468616e20697420697320746f206265206f7665726c7920636f6e666964656e742e|It is better to be afraid, creature of clay, than it is to be overly confident.}} You...") Tag: Visual edit
21:41, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Founding 5 (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:Founding_5}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Hypatia's Journal #5 |author = Hypatia |loc = Flooded Valley }} From Hypatia's Journals, Volume 1, The Founding of New Jerusalem: Day 200 Construction on our new home is coming along nicely. We finished two new buildings last week, and this week we started on our new lodgings. Athena and Cornelius have plans to erect a tower in the middle of the settlement which will serve as our administrative center and main h...") Tag: Visual edit
21:31, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Consume (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:Vox Pop#9}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Vox Pop #9 |author = ? |loc = Flooded Valley }} From an interview with a protester outside the Institute for Applied Noematics: Q: So why did you join this protest? A: Artificial intelligence is inherently dangerous to this planet's ecosystem. Defending that ecosystem is our responsibility. Q: In which way is artificial intelligence dangerous? A: I'm not some paranoid idiot imagining Skynet taking over the worl...") Tag: Visual edit: Switched
21:25, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page From Aurora (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:From_Aurora}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Archived Message |author = Aurora |loc = Flooded Valley }} From: Aurora To: Athena Dear Athena, Have you really left us for good, without even saying goodbye? I know we haven't spoken much lately, but isn't that just part of the slow, relaxed lives we now lead? After all those centuries of struggle, trying to build New Jerusalem, I thought we deserved a rest. And if that disappointed you... why didn't you say...")
21:18, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Puzzled (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:puzzled}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = Puzzled (archived post) |author = ? |loc = Flooded Valley }} '''<big>Puzzled (archived post)</big>''' The role of puzzles in the Simulation was so important to the creation of our civilization that it has left an indelible imprint - but sometimes I worry that this is an issue. Alexandra Drennan thought of human beings as problem solvers, but the real world isn't anything like the Simulation. Yes, there are problems...")
21:12, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page And Yet It Moves (Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:And_Yet_It_Moves}} {{DocumentInfobox |name = And Yet It Moves |author = ? |loc = Wooded Plateau }} '''And Yet It Moves''' A fascinating story I discovered in the Archive concerns a great scientist by the name of Galileo. This remarkable man made huge contributions to the early development of science, but was best remembered for becoming embroiled in a controversy with the Church that ended with accusations of heresy, a trial, and him being placed unde...") Tag: Visual edit
20:36, 18 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton (Created page with "== Straton 1 - Straton defines the Talos Principle. == === Location === East 1 - Grasslands Ring === Transcription === Whether it is true that Daedalus constructed the giant Talos, or as others say he was the creation of Hephaestus, what we may be certain of is that he was made of bronze, and had but one vein, within which flowed a liquid substance like blood, which some claim was quicksilver, and others assert was ichor such as flows in the veins o...") Tag: Visual edit
17:14, 17 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page World Spirit (Created page with " {{DocumentInfobox|author=UNKNOWN|loc=East 2 - Wooded Plateau|name=The World-Spirit}} What is it that drives historical processes? It's easy to dismiss the idea of the Great Man (or the Great Woman, for that matter) when clearly so much is determined by resource distribution, pre-existing political structures, and the randomness of the universe itself. But is there no space at all for the individual in all this? Are there not moments when, in Hegelian fashion, an indiv...") Tag: Visual edit
17:02, 17 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Founding 2 (Created page with "<big><B>Hypatia's Journal #2</b></big> From Hypatia's Journals, Volume 1, The Founding of New Jerusalem: Day 14 Melampus and Yemo went back to the dam to get more charging equipment. They've not returned yet, which means that we're stretched a little thin, since we're still posting guards at all times. But those large herbivores haven't come back yet, and at any rate Eustathius assures us that they're non-aggressive. But it's better not to take any chances. Not when t...") Tag: Visual edit: Switched
21:52, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 12 (Created page with "== Straton faces his end. == I have considered the visions that have plagued me on this strange journey, this insubstantial pageant all around me, and I have asked myself: is this Hades? Are these the Blessed Isles? For I never believed such things existed, except by made by the hands of the living. The conclusion I have come to frightens me, but I must face it. It is not this island that is insubstantial, but I. Straton of Stageira is dead; he has been dead for many age...") Tag: Visual edit
21:51, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 11 (Created page with "== Straton wonders what would make a good life possible. == Perhaps for the life of an individual citizen to be good, first the city itself must be good. Perhaps even the cosmos itself must be made better, before such a thing as a good life is truly possible. These insubstantial creatures that walk through my thoughts – perhaps they can live that life. They are, after all, human beings like myself. This much I have understood. Is that why they have summoned me? Can I s...") Tag: Visual edit
21:50, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 10 (Created page with "== Straton considers whether he lived a good life. == What did it mean, in the end, to be Straton? To have few friends and many enemies? To write harsh words because it seemed necessary? To pursue the truth at the expense of all else, of family, of love… to pursue that one principle to the point of… of death. Is that what I was? A life lived against the tides of history, broken, jagged, unrelenting? Not a kind old man beloved of his children and then forgotten, but a...") Tag: Visual edit
21:50, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 9 (Created page with "== Straton ponders the mysteries that surround him. == I see these beings, these children of a future age, wandering around an island more fantastical than Atlantis itself, looking desperately to find themselves. I reach out to them, but they cannot see me. I speak to them, but I do not know if they can hear me. Am I being punished? Are the gods playing some cruel trick on me? Why can I remember so little? What is this sorrowful voice I hear, whispering such terrible tho...") Tag: Visual edit
21:49, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 8 (Created page with "== Straton on the difficulty of standing up for one's principles. == It is easy to speak of one’s principles when the world is at peace, and there is no price to pay for thoughts that stray from what is permitted. But when times grow hard, and even ordinary men are filled with mindless anger, when the face of the enemy is suddenly known to every virtuous citizen, and to question to virtuous is to be likened to Ephialtes… when every hoary old superstition suddenly spr...") Tag: Visual edit
21:48, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 7 (Created page with "== Straton considers the invisible forces in our lives. == The world we see around us may not always be as it appears. Some philosophers have said that we are surrounded by nothingness, merely because air is not visible to the eye; and yet one needs only to observe the wind in the trees, or plunge one’s hand into the clear waters of the Aegean, to see that air has material substance. The same applies to many other forces that shape our lives. That they seem invisible d...") Tag: Visual edit
21:47, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 6 (Created page with "== Straton asks what the city owes the citizen. == We have of late been told much about what the citizen owes the city: loyalty, obedience, gratitude. And I will not nargue with those who say that without some loyalty to a greater good, a man is little more than a savage; and I will even say that these days there are more savages amongst us than amongst the barbarians, who we call savages out of ignorance and arrogance. But there is another question that we are rarely en...") Tag: Visual edit
21:47, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 5 (Created page with "== Straton speaks about freedom. == What is freedom? Is it merely to be ruled by those who speak one’s own language or share one’s customs? No, that is merely a more convenient servitude. Is it to have no obligations, no loyalties? No, that is not to be free, but to be alone. What of freedom from hunger and thirst? Here we are closer to the truth, for freedom requires life; but one may have all the meat and all the wine in the world and still not be free. The most im...") Tag: Visual edit
21:46, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 4 (Created page with "== Straton on the journey of philosophy. == To us who have only just begun this journey of philosophy, the world may seem like a mystery that can never be solved. A great deal has been written since the days of the Seven Sages, but how much of it is truth, and how much idle speculation? I have offended many by saying that most philosophy will, as the centuries pass, be discarded as foolishness and superstition, but it is a truth only philosophers fail to see. And yet we...") Tag: Visual edit
21:45, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 3 (Created page with "== Straton considers the nature of the city. == Let us consider the city. What is a city? It is not a gift from the gods, nor the product of Nature. Unlike a mountain or river, it is something that must be built through deliberate arrangements of material by a mind imposing order on the world; and it is built to serve a purpose. To that end it has roads and fountains and walls; and to the same end it has laws and leaders. And though each city is built according to a diff...") Tag: Visual edit
21:44, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Straton 2 (Created page with "== Straton extends the Talos Principle == We begin with the self because that is what determines our existence as individuals; but the self cannot exist without that which surrounds it. The citizen lives within the city; and the city lives within the cosmos. So now we must apply the principle we have discovered to the wider world and ask: if man is like a machine, could it be that the universe is similar in nature? And if so, what follows from that fact? Category:TTP2...") Tag: Visual edit
21:36, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 12 (Created page with "In my reports to you I have often spoken about this island in terms that some might perceive as negative. I hope you understand that the opposite is true. Here, in these green hills, I see tremendous potential for transformation and spiritual awakening. I do not see the world as you do, Athena, but I see the rot at the heart of New Jerusalem. If you and Cornelius want to go through with your plan, then this is the perfect place. My students and I will help you transport...") Tag: Visual edit
21:35, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 11 (Created page with "Sometimes new citizens come to me, and they want to learn from me. My work appears to have created a legend of sorts. In these moments, I understand your situation. I want to teach them, but what they must learn the most is independence of thought. How does one resolve this contradiction? They wish to come along on my journeys, but I do not need a group of fawning acolytes following my every step. A journey truly worth every step is rarely easy. And so, I have begun to t...") Tag: Visual edit
21:34, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 10 (Created page with "The reason I have always admired Alexandra Drennan is that even in death, she fought to see the world as it is, not as she wanted to see it. I say fought because I believe this is not an easy matter, it is a mental and spiritual struggle that we must undertake with great seriousness, even when we are joking. The ancients believed that for most of us, the world is a shadow cast by a flame, dimly seen on the wall of a cave. Our task is not to interpret these shapes, but to...") Tag: Visual edit
21:34, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 09 (Created page with "There is a kind of peace here in the desert. A perfect silence. This is a dead place, more dead than almost anywhere else on Earth. If the ground could have a personality, it would be malevolent. But, as I said before, all this in some sense does not exist at all. It does not hate us; it is simply the opposite of everything that life requires. When you sit in the dunes and you hear only the wind, and nothing else at all, and all the complexities of civilization fade away...") Tag: Visual edit
21:33, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 08 (Created page with "On my last return to New Jerusalem, I perused the latest artistic offerings and found myself deeply disappointed. There is nothing more despicable to me than an artist who pursues the appearance of mortality; moral art is trash, garbage, not even good enough to be used as wallpaper. If art is a religion, then morality is for those who want to be seen in church; true art is for those who believe. Art must be ecstatic, a work of revelation, created in pursuit of the truth...") Tag: Visual edit
21:33, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 07 (Created page with "One day undoubtedly an expedition will pass by this island. It will seek to document facts and statistics, to enumerate reasons for us not to look more closely. That is what we do now, we seek facts rather than truth, because truth might frighten and unsettle the comfortable people who like to sit in their conference rooms and debate which corners we should cut today. These people like to imagine the chaos that could come one day, like comforting fairy tale of distant da...") Tag: Visual edit
21:32, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 06 (Created page with "You may wonder why I insist on these unsanctioned, unplanned expeditions. Something think it is because I hate civilization and prefer to lose myself in Nature. This is precisely the opposite of the truth. It is because I love New Jerusalem that I have to leave. Because it is only when I am here that I am here that I fully appreciate what the city means. And also because I believe that if I stayed at home, I would one day be ethically be compelled to commit acts of viole...") Tag: Visual edit
21:31, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 05 (Created page with "One of the most foolish illusions that commonly persist is that Nature is a victim and humanity is a perpetrator. This can only be the opinion of someone who has not witnessed Nature at first hand, who has not seen its immense and awe-inspiring baseness. Nature is mindless chaos and eternal conflict, a system of predation and consumption whose perfect cruelty can only induce a terrified and unwilling admiration. Nature is our most powerful and least honorable enemy, a be...") Tag: Visual edit
21:29, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 04 (Created page with "As we continue exploring the cold northern reaches of the island, the contrast between the harshness of this place and the softness of New Jerusalem becomes more and more pronounced. There is a kind of madness in what we are doing, going to a place that is so hostile to our existence. That does not mean there is nothing to love here. There is in fact a great beauty, but it is a hateful beauty, a beauty you can only love because there are places that are not like this. An...") Tag: Visual edit
21:29, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 03 (Created page with "The rotting remains of the old world should fill me with melancholy; even here on this remote island, our ancestors could not escape their fate. And yet I find there is something pathetic about these ruins that evokes anger and even contempt. I feel it is a mistake to accept catastrophe with equanimity: what we see here should offend us. When witnessing triumph of entropy, we should aspire to a warrior spirit, even a kind of hate of the past and its failures, that will n...") Tag: Visual edit
21:25, 16 November 2023 Berrytron talk contribs created page Lifthrasir 02 (Created page with "While exploring the forest, I came across a sight of primal force. A beautiful stag, standing on a hill, silhouetted against the setting sun. It appeared like a messenger from some divine natural power, perhaps from Gaia herself. Even to being such as myself, less susceptible to manipulation by instincts and hormones, it was clearly a moment of revelation. In such a moment, we are told to avert our eyes. But what if we do not? What will we discover if we look more closel...") Tag: Visual edit
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